{"id":4278,"date":"2009-12-07T15:23:04","date_gmt":"2009-12-07T13:23:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/2114"},"modified":"2012-02-13T11:02:13","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T10:02:13","slug":"hva-l%c3%a6rte-katolske-barn-i-1958","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2009\/12\/hva-l%c3%a6rte-katolske-barn-i-1958\/","title":{"rendered":"Hva l\u00e6rte katolske barn i 1958?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/blog\/bilde\/bbok58blog.jpg\" align=\"right\" hspace=\"9\"\/>Jeg har i det siste sett litt p\u00e5 BARNAS B\u00d8NNEBOK, utgitt p\u00e5 St Josephs institutt i 1958, med imprimatur fra biskop Mangers.<\/p>\n<p>Jeg har skannet inn deler av boka; f\u00f8rst en del b\u00f8nner som barna b\u00f8r l\u00e6re: Det hellige korstegn, faderv\u00e5r, Hill deg, Maria, Trosbekjennelsen etc. Her vil man kjenne igjen b\u00f8nner som barna l\u00e6rer ogs\u00e5 dag. <a href=\"\/odv\/tlm\/58bbok_bonner.pdf\">Se disse b\u00f8nnene her<\/a> (pdf-fil).<\/p>\n<p>Boka inneholder ogs\u00e5 seks ulike oppsett av den hellige messen, som skal hjelpe barna til \u00e5 f\u00f8lge med i messen (husk at man den gang brukte den tradisjonelle messen p\u00e5 latin). <a href=\"\/odv\/tlm\/58bbok_messe1.pdf\">Den f\u00f8rste av disse messene kan man se her<\/a> (stor pdf-fil).<\/p>\n<p>TILLEGG:<br \/>\nJeg er ikke s\u00e5 kritisk til dagens katekese som noen av kommentarene under; mange steder l\u00e6rer barna n\u00e5 bl.a. mange viktige b\u00f8nner &#8211; det er faktisk blitt store forandringer fra 70- og 80-tallet.<\/p>\n<p>Jeg er heller ikke helt tilfreds med at ordets del av messen p\u00e5 50-tallet var p\u00e5 latin. Hvis den gamle messen virkelig skal komme tilbake til store grupper av katolikker, m\u00e5 det enkelte forandringer til  &#8211; syns jeg.  Og man m\u00e5 kunne skille mellom ordets del og selve offeret\/canon; under den helligste delen m\u00e5 gjerne barn (og voksne) delvis meditere ved hjelp av egne b\u00f8nner p\u00e5 morsm\u00e5let (som vi ser i barnas b\u00f8nnebok), men det blir lite naturlig om en slik parallell-kj\u00f8ring foreg\u00e5r under hele messen.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg har i det siste sett litt p\u00e5 BARNAS B\u00d8NNEBOK, utgitt p\u00e5 St Josephs institutt i 1958, med imprimatur fra biskop Mangers. Jeg har skannet inn deler av boka; f\u00f8rst en del b\u00f8nner som barna b\u00f8r l\u00e6re: Det hellige korstegn, faderv\u00e5r, Hill deg, Maria, Trosbekjennelsen etc. Her vil man kjenne igjen b\u00f8nner som barna l\u00e6rer [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4278","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk","category-tlm"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4278","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4278"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4278\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4978,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4278\/revisions\/4978"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4278"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4278"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4278"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}