{"id":4280,"date":"2009-12-09T09:23:11","date_gmt":"2009-12-09T07:23:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/2116"},"modified":"2012-02-13T11:22:50","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T10:22:50","slug":"knelebenker-og-kommunionsbenk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2009\/12\/knelebenker-og-kommunionsbenk\/","title":{"rendered":"Knelebenker og kommunionsbenk"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I g\u00e5r ble f\u00f8lgende kommentar sendt inn til bloggen min, av Hans Bj.: <i>&laquo;Hvis den normative regelen er \u00e5 motta kommunion knelende og p\u00e5 tungen, hvorfor er da kommunionsbenkene (alterringen) fjernet fra v\u00e5re kirker?&raquo;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Det syns jeg er et sv\u00e6rt godt sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l, selv om jeg f\u00f8rst m\u00e5 si at s\u00e5 langt jeg vet er disse to ting ikke obligatoriske noen\/mange steder &#8211; selv om vi vet at pave Benedikt alltid deler ut kommunion slik.<\/p>\n<p>Jeg skal illustrere dette med et eksempel fra fra Stavanger, der St Svithun kirke ble nybygget ca 1980. Da ble det bestemt at kirken ikke skulle ha knelebenker, for &laquo;det hadde Vatikankonsilet avskaffet&raquo;! (Det sa visst bl.a. datidens sognsprest.) N\u00e5r folk forteller dette i dag, b\u00e5de prester og legfolk, er de hoderystende over hvor feil noen mennesker tenkte i 1980. Og s\u00e5 fikk kirken likevel knelebenker, enten da den var nye eller snart etter &#8211; Hans Bj. husker sikkert hvordan det gikk til.<\/p>\n<p>Knelebnekene forsvant alts\u00e5 i mange katolske kirke (men heldivis veldig sjelden i Norge), men kommunionsbenken forsvant nesten over alt. Hvorfor? Ville det ikke v\u00e6re naturlig \u00e5 knele under messens mest hellige \u00f8yeblikk, n\u00e5r man mottar Kristus? Jeg forst\u00e5r egentlig ikke hvorfor det ene forsvant, men ikke det andre &#8211; spesielt ikke n\u00e5r jeg ikke kjenner til kirkedokumenter som sa at noen av dem skulle bort.<\/p>\n<p>Muligens er det rett og slett bare vanen som sier katolikker i dag, at det er naturlig og \u00f8nskelig \u00e5 ha knelebenker i kirkene, men ikke kommunionsbenk.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I g\u00e5r ble f\u00f8lgende kommentar sendt inn til bloggen min, av Hans Bj.: &laquo;Hvis den normative regelen er \u00e5 motta kommunion knelende og p\u00e5 tungen, hvorfor er da kommunionsbenkene (alterringen) fjernet fra v\u00e5re kirker?&raquo; Det syns jeg er et sv\u00e6rt godt sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l, selv om jeg f\u00f8rst m\u00e5 si at s\u00e5 langt jeg vet er disse [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4280","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4280","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4280"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4280\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5215,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4280\/revisions\/5215"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4280"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4280"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4280"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}