{"id":4293,"date":"2009-12-18T15:45:51","date_gmt":"2009-12-18T13:45:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/2131"},"modified":"2012-02-13T11:02:13","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T10:02:13","slug":"biskop-kozon-i-k%c3%b8benhavn-skriver-om-den-gamle-messen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2009\/12\/biskop-kozon-i-k%c3%b8benhavn-skriver-om-den-gamle-messen\/","title":{"rendered":"Biskop Kozon i K\u00f8benhavn skriver om den gamle messen"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I siste nummer av <a href=\"http:\/\/www.katolskorientering.dk\">Katolsk orientering<\/a> i Danmark kommenterer biskop Kozon en debatt om den gamle messen som har foreg\u00e5tt de siste ukene (og som jeg dessverre ikke har f\u00e5tt med meg), og <a href=\"http:\/\/www.katolskorientering.dk\/index.php?id=104&#038;tx_ttnews[tt_news]=6504&#038;tx_ttnews[backPid]=94&#038;cHash=46657a438c\">han skriver her bl.a.<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><i>To indl\u00e6g om liturgi i &#8230; \u201dKatolsk Orientering\u201d omhandler pave Benedikts XVI\u2019s tilladelse fra 2007 til fejring af messen efter missalet fra 1962 &#8230; I nr. 16 opsummerer Carl Winsl\u00f8w i store tr\u00e6k motu propriet \u201dSummorum pontificum,\u201d dokumentet der beskriver den \u00f8gede mulighed for at g\u00f8re brug af \u201dden ekstraordin\u00e6re form\u201d for fejringen af messen. I f\u00f8lgende nummer forholder to sognepr\u00e6ster, Stephen Holm og Thomas Birkheuser sig kritisk til b\u00e5de Carl Winsl\u00f8ws indl\u00e6g og pave Benedikts person og bestemmelser.<\/p>\n<p>Jeg skal her ikke komme n\u00e6rmere ind p\u00e5 pave Benedikts begrundelse for at tillade fejringen af messen efter den ekstraordin\u00e6re form. Det er heller ikke min hensigt hverken at fremme eller frar\u00e5de fejringen af messen efter 1962-ordningen.<\/p>\n<p>Man kan mene, hvad man vil om messen i den gamle form, ogs\u00e5 om Carl Winsl\u00f8ws holdninger og forventninger til dens udbredelse; men de to sognepr\u00e6sters reaktion og ordvalg er uden proportioner og ogs\u00e5 \u2013 trods deres egen mening om det modsatte \u2013 b\u00e5de respektl\u00f8st og ukatolsk, ogs\u00e5 over for Paven selv. &#8230; &#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; Den \u00f8gede mulighed for at fejre messen efter den gamle ordning er endnu ny, og de kommende \u00e5rs erfaringer p\u00e5 dette omr\u00e5de skal evalueres. Der er fortsat en r\u00e6kke sp\u00f8rgsm\u00e5l, som skal afklares, f.eks. forholdet til den nuv\u00e6rende liturgiske kalender, l\u00e6seordningen mm. Frem for alt skal b\u00e5de tilh\u00e6ngere og modstandere af den gamle form lade v\u00e6re med p\u00e5 forh\u00e5nd at frakende den anden part det rette kirkelige sindelag, og slet ikke med uk\u00e6rlige og latterligg\u00f8rende ord. Begge parter skal spare p\u00e5 det skarpe skyts.<\/p>\n<p>Tilh\u00e6ngerne af den gamle messeform, pr\u00e6ster s\u00e5vel som l\u00e6gfolk, kommer ikke helt uden om den nye messe, hvis de vil leve med i Kirkens liv. Tilsvarende bliver ej heller nogen pr\u00e6st tvunget til at fejre messen fra f\u00f8r l969, og ingen l\u00e6gfolk ber\u00f8vet muligheden for at deltage i messen i den form, vi nu som helhed er vant til. Dette sidste er en yderligere grund til at holde igen med respektl\u00f8s og unuanceret kritik af Paven og hans im\u00f8dekommenhed over for tilh\u00e6ngerne af en anden legitim liturgisk tradition.<\/p>\n<p>+Czeslaw Kozon<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I siste nummer av Katolsk orientering i Danmark kommenterer biskop Kozon en debatt om den gamle messen som har foreg\u00e5tt de siste ukene (og som jeg dessverre ikke har f\u00e5tt med meg), og han skriver her bl.a.: To indl\u00e6g om liturgi i &#8230; \u201dKatolsk Orientering\u201d omhandler pave Benedikts XVI\u2019s tilladelse fra 2007 til fejring af [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4293","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk","category-tlm"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4293","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4293"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4293\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4976,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4293\/revisions\/4976"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4293"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4293"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4293"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}