{"id":4319,"date":"2010-01-06T13:31:43","date_gmt":"2010-01-06T11:31:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/2156"},"modified":"2012-02-13T11:22:41","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T10:22:41","slug":"john-baldovin-sj-skriver-pa-den-nye-liturgibloggen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2010\/01\/john-baldovin-sj-skriver-pa-den-nye-liturgibloggen\/","title":{"rendered":"John Baldovin, SJ, skriver p\u00e5 den nye liturgibloggen"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg syns det har v\u00e6rt et interessant at dagen etter at jeg har begynt \u00e5 lese John F. Baldovins bok \u201cReforming the Liturgy. A Response to Critics\u201d (<a href=\"\/blog\/arkiv\/2153\">se her<\/a>), ser jeg at han ogs\u00e5 skriver p\u00e5 den nye liturgibloggen jeg fant i dag (<a href=\"\/blog\/arkiv\/2155\">se her<\/a>). I dette innlegget (som allerede har f\u00e5tt flere kommentarer) skriver Baldvin om bloggen til the New Liturgical Movement (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.newliturgicalmovement.org\">NLM<\/a>), som jeg ofte siterer. Og han skriver bl.a.:<\/p>\n<p><i><font color=\"#333399\">&#8230; &#8230; Readers and supporters of NLM no doubt are on the same train as Pope Benedict XVI \u2013 and the train doesn\u2019t seem to be stopping anytime soon. That\u2019s why they think it\u2019s the \u201cnew\u201d liturgical movement. They are convinced that the future is going to look a lot more like 1960 than 1975.<\/p>\n<p>Anyone who\u2019s read my recent work on the critics of the liturgical reform knows that I am sympathetic with many of the criticisms launched against the sometimes careless and ideologically irresponsible application of the post-Vatican II liturgy reforms. The criticisms are often accurate enough, but the problem with NLM and groups like it is not their criticism so much as their prescription. The movement to have the priest and the faithful face in the same direction is a good example. There are many excellent examples of Eucharistic celebrations versus populum in which it is quite clear that Christ (the whole Christ \u2013 head and members) is at the center of the celebration.  The fact that there are celebrations where this is not the case should not discount the former. As I\u2019ve said elsewhere, each \u201cside\u201d of the liturgical debate has the tendency to caricature the worst of their opponents in favor of the best of their own practice. It doesn\u2019t take much sophistication to realize that those kinds of arguments are less than useful. &#8230; &#8230; <\/font><\/i><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2010\/01\/05\/the-new-liturgical-movement\/\">Les hele hans innlegg her<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg syns det har v\u00e6rt et interessant at dagen etter at jeg har begynt \u00e5 lese John F. Baldovins bok \u201cReforming the Liturgy. A Response to Critics\u201d (se her), ser jeg at han ogs\u00e5 skriver p\u00e5 den nye liturgibloggen jeg fant i dag (se her). I dette innlegget (som allerede har f\u00e5tt flere kommentarer) skriver [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4319","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4319","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4319"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4319\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5189,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4319\/revisions\/5189"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4319"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4319"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4319"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}