{"id":4337,"date":"2010-01-19T17:51:05","date_gmt":"2010-01-19T15:51:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/2174"},"modified":"2012-02-13T11:22:02","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T10:22:02","slug":"en-sv%c3%a6rt-interessant-artikkel-om-den-nye-engelske-oversettelsen-av-messen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2010\/01\/en-sv%c3%a6rt-interessant-artikkel-om-den-nye-engelske-oversettelsen-av-messen\/","title":{"rendered":"En sv\u00e6rt interessant artikkel om den nye engelske oversettelsen av messen"},"content":{"rendered":"

I USA og delvis i England har (utrolig nok noen prester) sammen med lokfolk tatt initiativet til \u00e5 pr\u00f8ve \u00e5 forpurre den nye oversettelsen av messen til Engelsk. Jeg sysn det er utrolig, siden den nye og mer n\u00f8yaktige oversettelsen av messen er utf\u00f8rt etter direktiv fra Vatikanet opg er n\u00e5 blitt gogkjent av alle engelskspr\u00e5klige bispekonferanser i hele verden. Nylig har Father Peter Stravinskas skrevet et interessant stykke i Jesuittenes tidsskrift «America<\/a>» der omtaler dette, og ogs\u00e5 p\u00e5 en interessant m\u00e5te kaster lys over hvordan den f\u00f8rste oversettelsen, tidlig p\u00e5 70-tallet, ble (s\u00e5 d\u00e5rlig) som den ble. Han skriver bl.a.:<\/p>\n

I was a freshman in high school when the \u201cvernacularization\u201d of the liturgy began and a junior in college seminary when the process reached its climax. Having majored in classical languages, I naturally was quite interested in the process and flattered when I was invited by the International Commission on English in the Liturgy (ICEL) to participate in the translation effort. Frankly, I was also surprised that someone of my thin experience had been asked to take part in a project that would influence the spiritual lives of millions of Catholics for decades to come.<\/p>\n

When I first reviewed the translation guidelines sent by ICEL, I was disappointed. Ideology, it seemed, had taken precedence over accuracy. Anima was not to be rendered as \u201csoul,\u201d I was informed, because doing so would set up an unnecessary dichotomy between body and soul. No feminine pronouns were to be used for the church, and common words were favored over precise theological or liturgical vocabulary. The goal was to capture the general meaning of the text, rather than a faithful rendering of a rich and historically layered Latin prose. I tried to work within these parameters, but I found it difficult to do and still remain true to the original text. My translations were evidently unsatisfactory because, upon submitting them, I was politely but firmly uninvited from serving on the commission.<\/p>\n

When the English Missale Romanum appeared in 1970, it was clear we had been handed a paraphrase instead of a translation. As a young priest required to use these texts, I quickly determined that something needed to be done to return to the people of God what Father Ryan dubs \u201ctheir baptismal birthright\u201d – that is, an English liturgy that seeks to convey all the depth, truth and beauty of the original Latin. By 1992, I had assembled a team of scholars who produced an alternative translation of the Ordinary of the Mass and presented that effort to the Bishops\u2019 Committee on the Liturgy in Washington, D.C., and the Congregation for Divine Worship in Rome. Hostility was the response from Washington – copies of our draft were gathered and destroyed at the bishops\u2019 meeting – while Rome expressed a guarded interest in our project.<\/p>\n

Ultimately, the Holy See came to the realization that many of the vernacular translations of the liturgy were problematic. (English was not the only example, just one of the more egregious.) In 2001 the Congregation for Divine Worship promulgated Liturgiam Authenticam setting forth a coherent philosophy of translation. The document called for revised translations in keeping with these norms and the establishment of an oversight committee, Vox Clara, to ensure the fidelity of future translations. … … <\/font><\/i><\/p>\n

Les hele artikkelen her<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

I USA og delvis i England har (utrolig nok noen prester) sammen med lokfolk tatt initiativet til \u00e5 pr\u00f8ve \u00e5 forpurre den nye oversettelsen av messen til Engelsk. Jeg sysn det er utrolig, siden den nye og mer n\u00f8yaktige oversettelsen av messen er utf\u00f8rt etter direktiv fra Vatikanet opg er n\u00e5 blitt gogkjent av alle […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4337","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4337","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4337"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4337\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5179,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4337\/revisions\/5179"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4337"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4337"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4337"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}