{"id":543,"date":"2010-10-14T14:30:30","date_gmt":"2010-10-14T12:30:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=543"},"modified":"2010-10-14T14:30:30","modified_gmt":"2010-10-14T12:30:30","slug":"a-feire-den-gamle-messen-influert-av-den-nye","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2010\/10\/a-feire-den-gamle-messen-influert-av-den-nye\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00c5 feire den gamle messen influert av den nye"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/bilder\/10okt_tlm_moderne.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"10okt_tlm_moderne\" width=\"555\" height=\"1001\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-545\" srcset=\"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/bilder\/10okt_tlm_moderne.jpg 555w, https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/bilder\/10okt_tlm_moderne-388x700.jpg 388w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 555px) 100vw, 555px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I St Joseph church, i Macon, Georgia ble det s\u00f8ndag deiret en tradisjonell latinsk messe med (minst) \u00e9n uvanlig vri: Tekstene ble lest direkte p\u00e5 morsm\u00e5let, og den som leste stod vendt mot folket. (Det har v\u00e6rt vanlig mange steder at bibeltekstene leses p\u00e5 morsm\u00e5let samtidig med at presten leser dem p\u00e5 latin.) <\/p>\n<p>Vi kan lese om messen (og se mange bilder) <a href=\"http:\/\/southernorderspage.blogspot.com\/2010\/10\/saint-joseph-church-macon-ga-octobers.html\">p\u00e5 denne bloggen<\/a>, og der skriver man: &laquo;I believe if this form of the Mass allowed for the vernacular for the parts of the Mass people hear &#8230;, that most people would prefer this to the current OF Mass. What do you think?&raquo; Det er vel noks\u00e5 upresist, for det er bare epistelen og evangeliet man kan lese p\u00e5 morsm\u00e5let (if\u00f8lge pavens motu proprio), ikke b\u00f8nner og andre ting som ogs\u00e5 leses\/synges h\u00f8yt. Men<strong> jeg er enig i at om den tradisjonelle messen skal kunne brukes i mye str\u00f8rre grad enn n\u00e5, m\u00e5 morsm\u00e5let brukes til tekstene<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Presten som feiret messen sier ogs\u00e5 om kommunionsutdeling p\u00e5 den tradisjonelle m\u00e5ten &#8211; og det er jeg ogs\u00e5 enig i:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I have distributed the Most Precious Body and Blood of our Risen Lord for well over 30 years to people standing. In the past three years of celebrating the EF Mass and distributing Holy Communion to kneeling communicants, I must say that from an external point of view it is much more reverent looking and from an internal point of view leads to more piety, reverence and faith in the Real Presence of our Lord. We need to return to this practice! <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/bilder\/10okt_tlm_mod_kommunion.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"10okt_tlm_mod_kommunion\" width=\"625\" height=\"423\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-546\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I St Joseph church, i Macon, Georgia ble det s\u00f8ndag deiret en tradisjonell latinsk messe med (minst) \u00e9n uvanlig vri: Tekstene ble lest direkte p\u00e5 morsm\u00e5let, og den som leste stod vendt mot folket. (Det har v\u00e6rt vanlig mange steder at bibeltekstene leses p\u00e5 morsm\u00e5let samtidig med at presten leser dem p\u00e5 latin.) 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