{"id":6343,"date":"2012-04-01T10:43:27","date_gmt":"2012-04-01T09:43:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=6343"},"modified":"2012-04-01T10:43:27","modified_gmt":"2012-04-01T09:43:27","slug":"hvordan-lese-pasjonen-palmesondag-og-langfredag","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2012\/04\/hvordan-lese-pasjonen-palmesondag-og-langfredag\/","title":{"rendered":"Hvordan lese pasjonen &#8211; Palmes\u00f8ndag og Langfredag?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I \u00e5r har jeg fire messer Palmes\u00f8ndag, p\u00e5 fire forskjellige steder, Bredtvet (l\u00f8rdag kveld), St Hallvard kirke, Nesodden og Holmlia (man skulle ikke tro man trengte \u00e5 reise s\u00e5 mye n\u00e5r man jobber i Oslo). Det ser ut til at jeg kommer til \u00e5 lese hele den lange pasjonen i hver av disse messene, og ikke velge kortversjonen i noen av dem. Noen \u00e5r har jeg leste kortversjonen av lidelsen p\u00e5 Palmes\u00f8ndag og (selvsagt) langversjonen Langfredag. Noen ganger har jeg syntes at den korte versjonen er vel kort, og i \u00e5r syns jeg absolutt det &#8211; og lar v\u00e6re \u00e5 bruke den.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2012\/03\/30\/against-reading-the-passion-of-the-lord-in-parts\/\">P\u00e5 nettstedet PrayTell<\/a> er det i \u00e5r en diskusjon om hvordan pasjonen b\u00f8r leses. I engelskspr\u00e5klige land er det ganske vanlig at alle i kirken leses &#8216;folkets&#8217; deler av teksten &#8211; jeg var selv med p\u00e5 det i de engelske messene i Stavanger et par \u00e5r. I innlegget jeg her refererer til argumenteres det mot denne praksisen, for folk lytter ikke normalt til teksten n\u00e5r de selv stadig skal huske p\u00e5 n\u00e5r de selv m\u00e5 ta del.<\/p>\n<p>I Norge bruker vi vanligvis m\u00e5ten som er mest anbefalt, bl.a. i Paschale Solemnitatis, Vatikanets brev fra 1988 som beskriver hvordan Kirkens hellige Triduum skal feires. Der st\u00e5r det bl.a.:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>33. The passion narrative occupies a special place. It should be sung or read in the traditional way, that is, by three persons who take the parts of Christ, the narrator and the people. The passion is proclaimed by deacons or priests, or by lay readers. In the latter case, the part of Christ should be reserved to the priest.<\/p>\n<p>#66 for Good Friday refers back to this.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Jeg har ikke noe mot denne praksisen, og har v\u00e6rt med p\u00e5 den mange ganger selv. Men i \u00e5r kommer jeg til \u00e5 lese hele pasjonen selv i hver av de fire messene &#8211; mest av praktiske grunner, men i <a href=\"http:\/\/www.praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2012\/03\/30\/against-reading-the-passion-of-the-lord-in-parts\/\">innlegget jeg her referer til<\/a>, sier noen debattanter at dette ofte kan v\u00e6re den beste m\u00e5ten.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I \u00e5r har jeg fire messer Palmes\u00f8ndag, p\u00e5 fire forskjellige steder, Bredtvet (l\u00f8rdag kveld), St Hallvard kirke, Nesodden og Holmlia (man skulle ikke tro man trengte \u00e5 reise s\u00e5 mye n\u00e5r man jobber i Oslo). Det ser ut til at jeg kommer til \u00e5 lese hele den lange pasjonen i hver av disse messene, og [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6343","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6343","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6343"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6343\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6344,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6343\/revisions\/6344"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6343"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6343"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6343"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}