{"id":722,"date":"2010-11-23T17:31:18","date_gmt":"2010-11-23T16:31:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=722"},"modified":"2010-11-23T17:31:18","modified_gmt":"2010-11-23T16:31:18","slug":"william-oddie-skriver-mer-om-hva-som-skjedde-i-england-for-15-ar-siden","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2010\/11\/william-oddie-skriver-mer-om-hva-som-skjedde-i-england-for-15-ar-siden\/","title":{"rendered":"William Oddie skriver mer om hva som skjedde i England for 15 \u00e5r siden"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicherald.co.uk\/commentandblogs\/2010\/11\/22\/the-inside-story-on-why-we-have-waited-15-years-for-an-ordinariate\/\">Wlliam Oddie skrev i g\u00e5r et nytt innlegg om dette<\/a>, kalt: <strong>Why we waited 15 years for an Ordinariate: the inside story.<\/strong> Her er noe av det han skriver:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230;.. appeared in my book The Roman Option some time after the whole thing had been torpedoed by the opposition of certain English Catholic bishops, as a result of which Cardinal Hume \u2013 who in the negotiations had been entirely supportive of the Anglican negotiators \u2013 lost his nerve and withdrew his support. The scheme foundered and sank, some thought without trace. I<strong>n Rome, Cardinal Ratzinger asked \u201cwhat are the English bishops afraid of?\u201d Pope John Paul asked the former Bishop Leonard: \u201cWhy are the English bishops so unapostolic?\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>(several years later) &#8230;. One day, I received a phone call from Rome. It was from a member of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, whose former prefect was now Pope. I was asked for an undertaking to mention to nobody either the name of my interlocutor or, at that time, even the fact that the conversation had taken place. Things were at an early and delicate stage, he said: but there was a real possibility of movement along the lines of the former negotiations. They had read my book. Could we talk?<\/p>\n<p>I told them that I wasn\u2019t as closely in contact with the Anglican side as I had been, for obvious reasons. But there was one thing I was sure of: that the whole thing would be sunk unless the English bishops were kept firmly out of the loop: they should be told nothing. There was a silence. \u201cYour remarks are noted,\u201d he said. But it was clear to me that if the English bishops hadn\u2019t been told yet, that was a decision that had already been made.<\/p>\n<p>Time passed again, though less of it, this time. To the astonishment and dismay of some Catholic bishops Anglicanorum coetibus was published. &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; I have explained in previous blogs why I think this is an entirely desirable development. I just have one question. Why could this not have happened 15 years ago? And what is the answer to Pope John Paul\u2019s and the then Cardinal Ratzinger\u2019s questions: What [were] the English bishops afraid of? And, a tougher question: why [were] the English bishops so unapostolic?<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps things are different now. We must all earnestly pray that they are.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Wlliam Oddie skrev i g\u00e5r et nytt innlegg om dette, kalt: Why we waited 15 years for an Ordinariate: the inside story. 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