{"id":754,"date":"2010-12-02T18:06:42","date_gmt":"2010-12-02T17:06:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=754"},"modified":"2010-12-02T18:08:17","modified_gmt":"2010-12-02T17:08:17","slug":"svar-pa-sporsmal-om-den-tradisjonelle-latinske-messen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2010\/12\/svar-pa-sporsmal-om-den-tradisjonelle-latinske-messen\/","title":{"rendered":"Svar p\u00e5 sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l om den tradisjonelle latinske messen"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\"Vatikanradioens tyske avdeling<\/a> har lagt ut et intervju med Msgr. Guido Pozzo i Ecclesia Dei, med mange sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l om den gamle messen. Msgr. Pozzi sier at interessen for den gamle liturgien er st\u00f8rst i Europa, Amerika og Australia (aller mest i Frankrike, sier han ogs\u00e5). Og p\u00e5 sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5let om hvorfor noen ikke er s\u00e5 glade for denne nye interessen for den gamle messen sier han:<\/p>\n

\u201eEs gibt Bisch\u00f6fe und Priester, die in der Nachfrage nach dem alten Ritus vor allem das Risiko einer Sehnsucht nach dem \u00c4sthetischen, rein Ornamentalen, Formalistischen sehen. Ich will nicht ausschlie\u00dfen, dass das in manchen F\u00e4llen stimmt, aber generell zeigt das doch eine Art Vorurteil. Denn der alte Messritus hat einen tiefen Reichtum, der nicht nur respektiert, sondern auch wiederentdeckt werden muss, zum Vorteil der Liturgie, wie man sie auch heute feiert. Diese Vorurteile und Widerst\u00e4nde m\u00fcssen durch eine \u00c4nderung der forma mentis, der Gesinnung, \u00fcberwunden werden. Es braucht eine angemessenere liturgische Bildung.\u201c<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Han f\u00e5r ogs\u00e5 sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l om den gamle messen i Peterskirken. Der feires det flere (private) daglige messer slik, sier han – men han kan ikke svare p\u00e5 om pave Benedikt kommer til \u00e5 feire den gamle messen:<\/p>\n

\u201eMit dem Inkrafttreten des Motu proprio Summorum Pontificum steht die au\u00dferordentliche Form der Messe nicht mehr unter Indult, so wie davor, sondern sie ist von den Normen des Motu proprio geregelt. Also werden im Petersdom, so wie in allen anderen Kirchen, die Normen des Motu proprio angewendet.\u201c<\/p>\n

Das hei\u00dft, auch in der Sakristei von Sankt Peter steht alles bereit, um nach dem alten Ritus feiern zu k\u00f6nnen?
\n\u201eJa, soweit mir bekannt ist. In der Tat feiern dort viele Priester morgens die Messe im alten Ritus, auch mit Messdiener.\u201c<\/p>\n

Wird Papst Benedikt eines Tages eine gro\u00dfe Messe in der au\u00dferordentlichen Form feiern?
\n\u201eIch glaube, die Frage ist dem falschen Adressaten gestellt!\u201c<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Dette intervjuet blir allerede diskutert (p\u00e5 engelsk) p\u00e5 TLM-bloggen<\/a>, hos Father Z.<\/a> og hos Rorate c\u00e6li<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Vatikanradioens tyske avdeling har lagt ut et intervju med Msgr. Guido Pozzo i Ecclesia Dei, med mange sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l om den gamle messen. Msgr. Pozzi sier at interessen for den gamle liturgien er st\u00f8rst i Europa, Amerika og Australia (aller mest i Frankrike, sier han ogs\u00e5). Og p\u00e5 sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5let om hvorfor noen ikke er s\u00e5 glade […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-754","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi","category-tlm"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/754","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=754"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/754\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=754"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=754"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=754"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}