{"id":775,"date":"2010-12-08T22:16:42","date_gmt":"2010-12-08T21:16:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=775"},"modified":"2010-12-09T11:30:15","modified_gmt":"2010-12-09T10:30:15","slug":"gamber-fra-optimisme-til-pessimisme","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2010\/12\/gamber-fra-optimisme-til-pessimisme\/","title":{"rendered":"Gamber: Fra optimisme til pessimisme"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg leser som jeg nevnte boka &laquo;Benedict XVI and the Sacred Liturgy&raquo;, og har begynt p\u00e5 et ka\u00e5ittel om den kjente msgr. Klaus Gamber. P\u00e5 s 32 kan vi lese at Gamber i 1966 var ganske optimistisk med tanke p\u00e5 den nye liturgien:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In 1966, Gamber published with Herder a much-noted treatise, Liturgie \u00dcbermorgen (Liturgy on the Day after Tomorrow). In this book the author summarizes his views on the historical developments that affected the liturgy, and then presents his own vision for the liturgy of the future Gamber already expresses some regrets, but he still reflects great optimism \u2026<\/p>\n<p>The first part of Liturgy on the day after tomorrow treats &#8216;The celebration of the Lord&#8217;s Supper.&#8217; &#8230; The author investigates the development of the celebration of the Eucharist until the time of Constantine. The title &#8216;Lord&#8217;s Supper&#8217; implies the relationship between the Eucharist and the agape, and underscores the sacramental meal, whereas Gamber, in his later publications, would stress the doctrine of Eucharistic sacrifice. In 1966, Gamber the liturgical theologian maintained (likely following the views of Romano Guardini) that the basic structure of the Eucharistic celebration&#8217; is the meal, whereas the &#8216;idea of sacrifice&#8217; became only later on &#8216;the dominant factor in the Mass&#8217;. \u2026 The author intentionally overlooks developments that occurred in the Middle Ages as well as in the modern era precisely in order to describe his utopian ideals for the future.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Men p\u00e5 s 36 kan vi s\u00e5 lese at Gamber i 1972 hadde snudd helt om:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n&#8230; Although Gamber, in 1966, was still following the mainstream of the day, \u2026 the situation changed radically over the course of the next few years. He himself noted, shortly before his death twenty-three years later, that in writing Liturgy on the day after tomorrow, he had laboured away full of optimism for the renewal of Roman Catholic worship in the near future &#8230; The outcome, then, was very quick &#8230; and entirely different from what I had expected.&#8217; Gamber describes the decline of the faith that ensued after Vatican II even as the greatest catastrophe in the entire history of the Church. &#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg leser som jeg nevnte boka &laquo;Benedict XVI and the Sacred Liturgy&raquo;, og har begynt p\u00e5 et ka\u00e5ittel om den kjente msgr. Klaus Gamber. P\u00e5 s 32 kan vi lese at Gamber i 1966 var ganske optimistisk med tanke p\u00e5 den nye liturgien: In 1966, Gamber published with Herder a much-noted treatise, Liturgie \u00dcbermorgen (Liturgy [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-775","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/775","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=775"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/775\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=775"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=775"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=775"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}