{"id":822,"date":"2010-12-20T08:27:59","date_gmt":"2010-12-20T07:27:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=822"},"modified":"2010-12-20T08:27:59","modified_gmt":"2010-12-20T07:27:59","slug":"hva-gjor-de-troende-under-den-eukaristiske-bonn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2010\/12\/hva-gjor-de-troende-under-den-eukaristiske-bonn\/","title":{"rendered":"Hva gj\u00f8r de troende under den eukaristiske b\u00f8nn?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Min kone og jeg var i en vanlig menighetsmesse her i g\u00e5r kveld &#8211; en sv\u00e6rt lite oppbyggende opplevelse, men jeg kommer sannsynligvis ikke til \u00e5 skrive noe mer om den. I dag tidlig (mandag, bare noen f\u00e5 timer f\u00f8r vi setter kursen nordover) leser jeg mer om det jeg skrev i forrige innlegg &#8211; om den eukaristiske b\u00f8nn og ad orientem &#8211; p\u00e5 <a href=\"http:\/\/marymagdalen.blogspot.com\/2010\/12\/what-do-you-do-in-eucharistic-prayer.html\">Fr. Ray Blakes blogg<\/a>. Den eukaristiske b\u00f8nn fungerer best n\u00e5r presten ser p\u00e5 Gud og ikke p\u00e5 folket, sier denne presten, og han tar ogs\u00e5 pave Benedikt til inntekt for \u00e5 si at den eukaristiske b\u00f8nn er i krise:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In &laquo;The Sprit of Liturgy&raquo; the Pope speaks of the Eucharistic Prayer as &laquo;being in crisis&raquo;. I must say being a regular celebrator of both forms of the Roman Rite, the crisis is in the Novus Ordo and especially when celebrated versus populum.<\/p>\n<p>In the usus antiquior the silence shouts &laquo;PRAYER&raquo;, in the usus recentior celebrated ad orientem there is a strong indication prayer is taking place but when it is celebrated facing the people, well, I am not sure what is going on and what the people are meant to do, I must confess I don&#8217;t know what our !st Communion children are taught to do in the Eucharistic Prayer.<\/p>\n<p>What do you do during the Eucharistic Prayer? Do you join the priest in saying the Eucharistic Prayer? I am told in some liberal parishes priests encourage people to join in, even here some people follow the prayer in their missals, a few even move their lips. Do you just wait for the priest to finish &#8211; not sure what to do? This seems to be why most priests opt for the short and quick EP2. Do you say your own prayers? It always strikes me as a bit rude to deliberately pray about something else when the priest is addressing God.<\/p>\n<p>In &laquo;The Sprit of Liturgy&raquo; the Pope speaks about returning to silent Eucharistic Prayer, or saying it silently but announcing in some way key words &#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Min kone og jeg var i en vanlig menighetsmesse her i g\u00e5r kveld &#8211; en sv\u00e6rt lite oppbyggende opplevelse, men jeg kommer sannsynligvis ikke til \u00e5 skrive noe mer om den. I dag tidlig (mandag, bare noen f\u00e5 timer f\u00f8r vi setter kursen nordover) leser jeg mer om det jeg skrev i forrige innlegg &#8211; [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-822","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/822","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=822"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/822\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=822"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=822"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=822"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}