{"id":8506,"date":"2013-05-29T22:19:36","date_gmt":"2013-05-29T20:19:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=8506"},"modified":"2013-05-31T09:27:24","modified_gmt":"2013-05-31T07:27:24","slug":"pave-frans-om-liturgien","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2013\/05\/pave-frans-om-liturgien\/","title":{"rendered":"Pave Frans om liturgien"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/bilder\/13mai_Francis_Marini.jpg\" alt=\"13mai_Francis_Marini\" width=\"400\" height=\"267\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-8510\" \/><br \/>\nJeg har sikkert skrevet altfor lite om liturgiske sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l i det siste. (!) Her er en artikkel om pave Frans&#8217; svar til biskoper som gjerne vil begrense\/stoppe de tradisjonelle messene i sitt bisped\u00f8mme, og ogs\u00e5 hans svar p\u00e5 om han vil beholde sin noks\u00e5 tradisjonelle seremonimester, msgr. Marini. Om det siste sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5let leser vi: &laquo;He has refused, saying that he wants to benefit from Mgr Marini&#8217;s traditional formation and to allow Mgr Marini also to be formed by him.&raquo; <a href=\"http:\/\/the-hermeneutic-of-continuity.blogspot.no\/2013\/05\/anti-trad-italian-bishops-call-for.html\">Fra Continuity-bloggen<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Bishops of the region of Tavoliere met recently with Pope Francis on an ad limina visit. On their return home, one has given a fascinating glimpse of the attitude of Pope Francis to those who are seeking to use the opportunity of his papacy to attack the traditional Mass. This is reported in the Italian paper Il Foglio, in the article: La messa antica non si tocca, il Papa gesuita spiazza ancora tutti (&laquo;The old mass is not to be touched, the Jesuit Pope wrong-foots everyone&raquo;)<\/p>\n<p>Here is my translation of the relevant part of the article which tells of other bishops raising concerns with the Holy Father and goes on to speak of the intervention concerning the old Mass:<\/p>\n<p>Then it was the turn of the bishop of Conversano and Monopoli, Domenico Padovano, who recounted to the clergy of his diocese how the priority of the bishops of the region of Tavoliere had been that of explaining to the Pope that the mass in the old rite was creating great divisions within the Church. The underlying message: Summorum Pontificum should be cancelled, or at least strongly limited. But Francis said no.<\/p>\n<p>Mgr Padovano explained that Francis replied to them saying that they should be vigilant over the extremism of certain traditionalist groups but also suggesting that they should treasure tradition and create the necessary conditions so that tradition might be able to live alongside innovation.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg har sikkert skrevet altfor lite om liturgiske sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l i det siste. (!) Her er en artikkel om pave Frans&#8217; svar til biskoper som gjerne vil begrense\/stoppe de tradisjonelle messene i sitt bisped\u00f8mme, og ogs\u00e5 hans svar p\u00e5 om han vil beholde sin noks\u00e5 tradisjonelle seremonimester, msgr. Marini. Om det siste sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5let leser vi: &laquo;He [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,11,6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8506","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk","category-liturgi","category-paven"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8506","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8506"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8506\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8509,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8506\/revisions\/8509"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8506"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8506"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8506"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}