{"id":866,"date":"2011-01-09T07:58:00","date_gmt":"2011-01-09T06:58:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=866"},"modified":"2011-01-09T07:58:00","modified_gmt":"2011-01-09T06:58:00","slug":"hvordan-oppleves-det-a-feire-en-tradisjonell-latinsk-messe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2011\/01\/hvordan-oppleves-det-a-feire-en-tradisjonell-latinsk-messe\/","title":{"rendered":"Hvordan oppleves det \u00e5 feire en tradisjonell latinsk messe?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Det er ikke s\u00e5 mange som kan svare p\u00e5 det sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5let, for det er ikke mange katolikker som er prester – og det er heller ikke mange prester som har opplevd det. Jeg tenkte p\u00e5 dette da jeg nylig hva en prest i USA skrev<\/a> om sin opplevelse:<\/p>\n

…first time: Deacon at a Solemn High Mass! A bit of training from a very good MC, and off we went. To say it is different than the NO Mass is, umm, selling it a bit short. I am still trying to get my head around the experience.<\/p>\n

First thought: strangely, it is much harder to ‘pray’ this Mass than the NO as a priest. At least these initial run throughs (with rusty Latin), I am so concerned with the Rubrics, the hand positions, the genuflections, the kissing the altar, hand, etc., I’m trying to get through it rather than ‘pray’ it. In TLM, it is not about the priest, it is about the ritual, the ceremony, the prayers; entering into a timelessness, almost. The prayers are beautiful in their wording, if sometimes wordy, even in the Latin (which can really get me toungue tied!)<\/p>\n

Another thought, from a friend who was attending her first TLM: Afterwards, as we were digesting the experience over sandwiches at Cinci’s oldest bar, her comment was: ‘It seemed, ummm…, more masculine.’ …<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Selv har jeg aldri feiret en h\u00f8ymesse (levittmesse) med prest, diakon og subdiakon, stille messer har jeg feiret over 100 av – s\u00e5 de oppleves ikke s\u00e5 annerledes og kompliserte lenger – men en missa cantata opplevde jeg de 3-4 gangene som overraskende komplisert – det er noe med samspillet med koret og ministrantene som m\u00e5 \u00f8ves inn, og musikken som man ikke behersker f\u00f8r man har l\u00e6rt den. Men n\u00e5r jeg i kveld feirer en missa cantata i St Joseph kirke, h\u00e5per jeg at den skal oppleves enklere.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Det er ikke s\u00e5 mange som kan svare p\u00e5 det sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5let, for det er ikke mange katolikker som er prester – og det er heller ikke mange prester som har opplevd det. Jeg tenkte p\u00e5 dette da jeg nylig hva en prest i USA skrev om sin opplevelse: …first time: Deacon at a Solemn High […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-866","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi","category-tlm"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/866","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=866"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/866\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=866"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=866"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=866"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}