Jeg gj\u00f8r de siste forberedelser til den tradisjonelle latinske messen i kveld (i St Joseph kirke i Akersveien kl 19.00), og har bl.a. trykket opp et ark med informasjon om n\u00e5r man kneler, st\u00e5r eller sitter under messen – og jeg skal nevne et par ting i forb. prekenen. <\/p>\n
Mye er likt det vi kjenner fra novus ordo, men f\u00f8lgende ting b\u00f8r folk bite seg merke i: man kneler ved starten av selve messen fram til gloria, man kneler fra starten av Sanctus, gjennom den eukaristiske b\u00f8nnm under faderv\u00e5r og kommunionen, og til sist kneler man ogs\u00e5 under velsignelsen i slutten av messen. Hele oversikten kan sees under.<\/p>\n
St\u00e5 – Under inngangsprosesjonen
\nSt\u00e5 – Under Asperges
\nKnele – Fra starten av messen til Gloria
\nSt\u00e5 – N\u00e5r Gloria intoneres (Hvis forsamlingen synger, st\u00e5r de under hele gloria. Hvis bare koret synger, setter folk seg n\u00e5r presten setter seg.)\t<\/em>
\nSt\u00e5 – D\u00f3minus vob\u00edscum and kollekten(e)
\nSitte – N\u00e5r epistelen og graduale synges
\nSt\u00e5 – N\u00e5r evangeliet synges
\nSitte – Under preken og kunngj\u00f8ringer
\nSt\u00e5 – Credo (St\u00e5 eller sitt som ved gloria.)<\/em>
\nSt\u00e5 – Dominus vob\u00edscum, Or\u00e9mus
\nSitte – Under offertoriet (Man reiser seg n\u00e5r forsamlingen insenseres.)<\/em>
\nSt\u00e5 – Prefasjonsdialogen og prefasjonen
\nKnele – Sanctus, kanon, Faderv\u00e5r, kommunion
\nSt\u00e5 – D\u00f3minus Vob\u00edscum og Postcommunion
\nKnele – Velsignelsen
\nSt\u00e5 – Det siste evangeliet og utgangsprosesjonen <\/p><\/blockquote>\nJeg fikk nettopp et tips om et par ting til som er annerledes i den gamle messen, og som b\u00f8r nevnes:<\/p>\n
Menigheten synger IKKE med p\u00e5 Faderv\u00e5r – bare p\u00e5 den siste setningen: Libera nos a malo.
\nMan sier IKKE Amen n\u00e5r man mottar kommunion – for presten sier Amen.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Jeg gj\u00f8r de siste forberedelser til den tradisjonelle latinske messen i kveld (i St Joseph kirke i Akersveien kl 19.00), og har bl.a. trykket opp et ark med informasjon om n\u00e5r man kneler, st\u00e5r eller sitter under messen – og jeg skal nevne et par ting i forb. prekenen. Mye er likt det vi kjenner […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-867","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi","category-tlm"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/867","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=867"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/867\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":872,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/867\/revisions\/872"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=867"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=867"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=867"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}