{"id":900,"date":"2011-01-18T18:37:47","date_gmt":"2011-01-18T17:37:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=900"},"modified":"2011-01-19T08:25:54","modified_gmt":"2011-01-19T07:25:54","slug":"father-andrew-burnhams-forste-messe-interessant-liturgi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2011\/01\/father-andrew-burnhams-forste-messe-interessant-liturgi\/","title":{"rendered":"Father Andrew Burnhams f\u00f8rste messe &#8211; interessant liturgi"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/bilder\/fr_burnham_fmass.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"fr_burnham_fmass\" width=\"550\" height=\"500\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-902\" \/><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/bilder\/fr_burnham_fmass2.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"fr_burnham_fmass2\" width=\"550\" height=\"475\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-903\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Father Andrew Burnham er en av de tre tidligere anglikanske bisopene som ble ordinert til katolske prester l\u00f8rdag; s\u00f8ndag feiret han sin f\u00f8rste messe. Og liturgien (han er visst liturgieksperten blant disse tre anglikanske biskopene) var ganske interessant. Som pave Benedikt i England brukte han latin fra og med prefasjonen, og (mer overraskende) han leste kanon for det aller meste stille mens Sanctus og Benedictus ble sunget. Dette er vanlig nok i den tradisjonelle messen, men absolutt ikke i novus ordo &#8211; men s\u00e5 skal ogs\u00e5 dette ordinariatet f\u00e5 lov til \u00e5 feire liturgien litt p\u00e5 sin egen m\u00e5te. <a href=\"http:\/\/liturgicalnotes.blogspot.com\/2011\/01\/ordnariate-common-sense-and-mutual.html\">Slik er dette beskreve<\/a>t p\u00e5 en anglo-katolsk blogg:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>(Father Andrew Burnham&#8217;s) liturgy (was interesting). Fine music (Byrd; Morales); <strong>Latin from the Sursum corda until the Communion<\/strong>. We had examples of what the American blogosphere now calls Common Sense and Mutual Enrichment. <strong>Sanctus covered the (silent) first half of the Canon Romanus and Benedictus the second half<\/strong>; we were spared those horrid &#8216;Acclamations&#8217; after the Consecration. At the Invitation to Communion, (Fr.) Andrew continued his custom of using the New ICEL translation of Ecce Agnus Dei.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Fr. Aidan Nichols, OP, prekte i messen, og <a href=\"http:\/\/ordinariateportal.wordpress.com\/2011\/01\/17\/fr-aidan-nichols-op-homily\/#more-820\">prekenen kan leses her<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em>(I tillegg til liturgien er det interessant \u00e5 se i hvilken grad man virkelig kalte eller oppfattet dette som en f\u00f8rste messe &#8211; og det avhenger igjen av om man regner disse personene som gyldig ordinert fra f\u00f8r. P\u00e5 en m\u00e5te har man latt dette sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5let st\u00e5 litt \u00e5pent, ser det ut til; de tre har ikke m\u00e5tte erk\u00e6re noe om sine tidligere ordinasjoner, men de er blitt ordinert absolutt (ikke kondisjonalt) b\u00e5de som diakoner og prester, og biskeviet kan de ikke bli siden de er gift &#8211; men de og deres venner f\u00e5r lov til \u00e5 tenke som de vil om fortida. N\u00e5 er de i alle fall gyldig ordinert til katolske prester, det kan det ikke v\u00e6re noen tvil om.)<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Father Andrew Burnham er en av de tre tidligere anglikanske bisopene som ble ordinert til katolske prester l\u00f8rdag; s\u00f8ndag feiret han sin f\u00f8rste messe. Og liturgien (han er visst liturgieksperten blant disse tre anglikanske biskopene) var ganske interessant. Som pave Benedikt i England brukte han latin fra og med prefasjonen, og (mer overraskende) han leste [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-900","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/900","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=900"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/900\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":901,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/900\/revisions\/901"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=900"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=900"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=900"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}