{"id":9257,"date":"2014-09-23T20:57:13","date_gmt":"2014-09-23T18:57:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=9257"},"modified":"2014-09-23T20:57:13","modified_gmt":"2014-09-23T18:57:13","slug":"kraftig-debatt-mellom-kardinaler","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2014\/09\/kraftig-debatt-mellom-kardinaler\/","title":{"rendered":"Kraftig debatt mellom kardinaler"},"content":{"rendered":"

Kardinal Kasper foreslo i v\u00e5r at Kirken skal lette p\u00e5 restriksjonene (mht \u00e5 motta sakramentene) for personer som er i et nytt (sivilt) ekteskap. Han har n\u00e5 blitt kritisert for dette av flere andre kardinalet (i forkant av bispesynoden i oktober) og liker dette lite (fra catholicnews.com<\/a>):<\/p>\n

In an interview published Sept. 18, a proponent of changing church practice to allow such Catholics to receive Communion answered criticism from some of his fellow cardinals, suggesting they are seeking a «doctrinal war» whose ultimate target is Pope Francis.<\/p>\n

«They claim to know on their own what truth is, but Catholic doctrine is not a closed system, but a living tradition that develops,» German Cardinal Walter Kasper told the Italian daily Il Mattino. «They want to crystallize the truth in certain formulas … the formulas of tradition.»<\/p>\n

«None of my brother cardinals has ever spoken with me,» the cardinal said. «I, on the other hand, have spoken twice with the Holy Father. I arranged everything with him. He was in agreement. What can a cardinal do but stand with the pope? I am not the target, the target is another.»<\/p>\n

Asked if the target was Pope Francis, the cardinal replied: «Probably yes.»<\/p>\n

Cardinal Kasper, who will participate in the upcoming synod by personal appointment of the pope, was responding to a new book featuring contributions by five cardinals, including three of his fellow synod fathers, who criticize his proposal to make it easier for divorced and civilly remarried Catholics to receive Communion.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Kardinal M\u00fcller er en av kardinalene som g\u00e5r mot Kasper, men hans artikkel i den omtalte boka<\/a> ble trykket i L’Osservatore Romano allerede i oktober i fjor<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Men i tillegg til kardinal M\u00fcllers bidrag til denne f\u00f8rste boka, er det ogs\u00e5 utgitt et langt intervju med ham om samme tema (ogs\u00e5 denne p\u00e5 Ignatius press i USA – SE HER<\/a>) Et udrag av denne boka er gjengitt p\u00e5 Firt Things nettsider, og der leser vi bl.a.<\/a>:<\/p>\n

Cardinal M\u00fcller: Not even an ecumenical council can change the doctrine of the Church, because her Founder, Jesus Christ, entrusted the faithful preservation of his teachings and doctrine to the apostles and their successors. The Gospel of Matthew says: \u201cGo and teach all people everything that I commanded you\u201d (cf. Mt 28:19\u201320), which is nothing if not a definition of the \u201cdeposit of the faith\u201d (depositum fidei) that the Church has received and cannot change. Therefore the doctrine of the Church will never be the sum total of a few theories worked out by a handful of theologians, however ingenious they may be, but rather the profession of our faith in revelation, nothing more and nothing less than the Word of God entrusted to the heart\u2014the interiority\u2014and the lips\u2014the proclamation\u2014of his Church.<\/p>\n

We have an elaborate, structured doctrine about marriage, all of it based on the words of Jesus himself, which must be presented in its entirety. We encounter it in the Gospels and in other places in the New Testament, especially in the words of Saint Paul in the First Letter to the Corinthians and in Romans. We also rely on tradition, with many writings and reflections of the Fathers of the Church, such as those of Saint Augustine. These are joined by the particular development that Scholasticism and the Magisterium made in the Councils of Florence and Trent. Lastly, a final stage in the progressive exposition of dogma is magnificently expressed for us in Lumen Gentium and, above all, in Gaudium et Spes (nos. 47\u201351), which are a complete synthesis that the Second Vatican Council made of the Church\u2019s entire doctrine on marriage, including the question about divorce also.<\/p>\n

In this regard, the Church cannot allow divorce in the case of a sacramental marriage that has been contracted and consummated. This is the dogma of the Church. I insist: the absolute indissolubility of a valid marriage is no mere doctrine; rather, it is a divine dogma defined by the Church. In the case of a de facto break-up of a valid marriage, another civil \u201cmarriage\u201d is not permissible. Otherwise, we would be facing a contradiction, because if the earlier union, the \u201cfirst\u201d marriage, or, more precisely, the marriage, really is a marriage, the other later union is not a \u201cmarriage.\u201d In this regard, I think we are playing with words when we speak about a first and a second \u201cmarriage.\u201d A second marriage is possible only when one\u2019s legitimate spouse has died or when the previous marriage has been declared invalid, whereby the preceding bond has been dissolved. Otherwise, we are dealing with what is called an \u201cimpediment of the bond.\u201d …<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Ganske tydelige ord av kardinal M\u00fcller – som er leder av Troskongregasjonen.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Kardinal Kasper foreslo i v\u00e5r at Kirken skal lette p\u00e5 restriksjonene (mht \u00e5 motta sakramentene) for personer som er i et nytt (sivilt) ekteskap. Han har n\u00e5 blitt kritisert for dette av flere andre kardinalet (i forkant av bispesynoden i oktober) og liker dette lite (fra catholicnews.com): In an interview published Sept. 18, a proponent […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9257","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk","category-teologi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9257","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9257"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9257\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9261,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9257\/revisions\/9261"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9257"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9257"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9257"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}