{"id":9590,"date":"2015-05-05T21:14:53","date_gmt":"2015-05-05T19:14:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=9590"},"modified":"2015-05-06T00:21:26","modified_gmt":"2015-05-05T22:21:26","slug":"dristige-tanker-om-liturgien","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2015\/05\/dristige-tanker-om-liturgien\/","title":{"rendered":"Dristige tanker om liturgien"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Peter Kwasniewski skriver f\u00f8lgende om liturgien p\u00e5 NLM-bloggen<\/a>:<\/p>\n

Let\u2019s give this Ognissanti rhetoric some careful thought. \u201cBackwards\u201d and \u201cforwards\u201d are inherently ambiguous metaphors. If we decide to stick with polyester vestments, guitars, wide fat candles, and banners, are we not looking backwards into the 1960s\/1970s? If we sing Gregorian chant, are we trapped in the Middle Ages\u2014or are we singing a timeless music that is always and everywhere simply Catholic, as the Popes have taught? Is Latin a \u201cdead language of the past\u201d or is it the sacred language of eternal Rome, through which we signify the apostolic truth and constancy of what we celebrate? And so on and so forth. Those who love traditional things are interested in neither \u201cgoing backwards\u201d nor \u201cgoing forwards.\u201d We are interested in worshiping God worthily in the present, in continuity with the past, and for the future health of the Church and the conversion of the world.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Det er litt dristig \u00e5 ta dette opp, fordi det referer til noe pave Frans sa for kort tid siden, da han markerte 50-\u00e5rsjubileet for den f\u00f8rste messen feiret p\u00e5 italiensk. Da sa han:<\/p>\n

Let us thank the Lord for what he has done in his Church in these 50 years of liturgical reform. It was truly a courageous gesture for the Church to draw near to the people of God so that they are able to understand well what they are doing. This is important for us, to follow the Mass in this way. It is not possible to go backwards. We must always go forward. Always forward (applause)! And those who go backward are mistaken.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Kwasniewski siterer s\u00e5 Fr. James V. Schall, som svarer slik:<\/p>\n

What, one wonders, does \u201cforward\u201d imply? The notion of \u201cprogress\u201d for the sake of \u201cprogress\u201d avoids the question of \u201cprogress to what?\u201d or \u201cforward to where?\u201d To go \u201cforward\u201d, we must first look backward to the Gospel. Chesterton said progress can only be made by looking backwards. The future is blank, but history contains real people, real choices for good or bad.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Kanskje messen under feires mer passende enn om man bruker de billige, syntetiske messehaklene vi ser \u00f8verst i denne artikkelen?<\/p>\n

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Peter Kwasniewski skriver f\u00f8lgende om liturgien p\u00e5 NLM-bloggen: Let\u2019s give this Ognissanti rhetoric some careful thought. \u201cBackwards\u201d and \u201cforwards\u201d are inherently ambiguous metaphors. If we decide to stick with polyester vestments, guitars, wide fat candles, and banners, are we not looking backwards into the 1960s\/1970s? If we sing Gregorian chant, are we trapped in the […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,11,6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9590","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk","category-liturgi","category-paven"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9590","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9590"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9590\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9596,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9590\/revisions\/9596"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9590"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9590"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9590"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}