{"id":9611,"date":"2015-05-08T09:52:34","date_gmt":"2015-05-08T07:52:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=9611"},"modified":"2015-05-08T18:34:08","modified_gmt":"2015-05-08T16:34:08","slug":"den-tyske-bispekonferansen-sjokkerer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2015\/05\/den-tyske-bispekonferansen-sjokkerer\/","title":{"rendered":"Den tyske bispekonferansen sjokkerer"},"content":{"rendered":"

De fleste vet at den tyske katolske bispekonferansen (i alle fall flertallet av biskopene) \u00f8nsker \u00e5 \u00e5pne for kommunion for gjengifte, men i dokumentet de n\u00e5 har offentliggjort (p\u00e5 flere spr\u00e5k) \u00f8nsker de \u00e5 g\u00e5 enda en hel del lenger – skriver Sandro Magister<\/a>, f\u00f8rst oppsummerende: The responses of the episcopal conference to the presynodal questionnaire describe what is already being done in Germany: communion for the divorced and remarried, tolerance for second marriages, approval of homosexual unions <\/strong><\/p>\n

S\u00e5 skiver han litt mer utf\u00f8rlig:<\/p>\n

When it comes to the question on \u201chow to promote the determination of pastoral guidelines on the level of particular Churches,\u201d the German bishops write: «Referring to social and cultural differences, some of the responses favour regional agreements on pastoral guidelines at local church level. The basis could also be formed by diocesan discussion processes on the topic of marriage and the family the outcome of which would be discussed with other local churches. This would be conditional on all concerned being willing to engage in a dialogue.»<\/p>\n

The formulation is a bit contorted, but the facts speak for themselves. In almost all the dioceses of Germany, sacramental absolution and Eucharistic communion are given to the divorced and remarried, as already made clear by a previous document from the German episcopal conference, approved on June 24, 2014 and proudly exhibited in Rome at last October\u2019s session of the synod on the family.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Og dette skrev de alts\u00e5 i 2014. Det skriver i \u00e5r oppsummerer Magister slik:<\/p>\n

Below is reproduced the section of the document with the responses to the most controversial points of the questionnaire: the divorced and remarried, mixed marriages, homosexuals.<\/p>\n

Not only do the German bishops approve of giving absolution and communion to the divorced and remarried, but they also express the hope that civil second marriages be blessed in church, that Eucharistic communion also be given to non-Catholic spouses, that the goodness of homosexual relationships and same-sex unions be recognized.<\/p>\n

They write that they do not intend in the least to bring into question the doctrine of the universal Church relative to marriage and family. But they do not explain how to reconcile this doctrine \u201ccum Petro e sub Petro\u201d with the pastoral practices that they have implemented in Germany.<\/p>\n

In the judgment of Cardinal Gerhard M\u00fcller, in fact, such a reconciliation is impossible. On the contrary, \u201cthe idea that the episcopal conferences are a magisterium apart from the Magisterium, without the pope and without communion with all the bishops, is a profoundly anti-Catholic idea that does not respect the catholicity of the Church\u201d.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Her er en lenke til dokumentet<\/a>: The Vocation and Mission of the Family in the Church and Contemporary World
\nResponse by the German Bishops\u2019 Conference to the Questions Aimed at a Response to and an In-Depth Examination of the Relatio Synodi in the Preparatory Document for the XIV Ordinary General Assembly of the Synod of Bishops of 2015.<\/p>\n

Her er dokumentet fra juni 2014<\/a>: Theologically-responsible, pastorally-appropriate ways of assisting remarried divorcees<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

De fleste vet at den tyske katolske bispekonferansen (i alle fall flertallet av biskopene) \u00f8nsker \u00e5 \u00e5pne for kommunion for gjengifte, men i dokumentet de n\u00e5 har offentliggjort (p\u00e5 flere spr\u00e5k) \u00f8nsker de \u00e5 g\u00e5 enda en hel del lenger – skriver Sandro Magister, f\u00f8rst oppsummerende: The responses of the episcopal conference to the presynodal […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9611","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk","category-teologi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9611","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9611"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9611\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9616,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9611\/revisions\/9616"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9611"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9611"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9611"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}