Litt mer om Vatikankonsilet og messen
Jeg siterte nylig gammel prest som angra en del på det han hadde gjort ved innføringa av den ny liturgien. På Father Z.’s blog har denne historien ført til en lang debatt, med 125 kommentarer så langt, noen ganske dårlige og tendensiøse, men noen svært gode.
Her tar jeg med tre kommenterer derfra. Den første sier at i hans menighet var den tids liturgiske bevegelse kommet langt, men flotte messer (TLM) med aktiv deltakelse av hele menigheten. Det argumenteres for at det var slike messer Vatikankonsilet egentlig ønska å få innført over hele verden. I den andre kommentaren er man egentlig enig i denne påstanden, men denne personen har svært negative minner om messene på 60-tallet. Den tredje kommentaren er fra en prest som også er selvkristisk til hvordan han oppførte seg på tidlig 70-tall.
I must have been an extremely fortunate Catholic. I was in a parish immediately prior to Vatican II that participated in the “Liturgical Movement.” Hence, I learned from a very early age, 6 or so, to learn the responses to the Mass in Latin, and by the time I was 10 I could sing 5 or 6 of the Latin chant ordinaries. When the changes began in late 1964 I was thorougly confused and angry because I LOVED the Mass in which I was “actually” participating. However, in speaking with my confreres from other parishes in that period, I learned that I was one of the very lucky ones because for most of them, the Mass was a very distant experience. That being said, I now know, that what the Council Fathers desired was for the Faithful to participate in the Mass as I did back then. When you read Sacrosanctum Concilium, it appears they were trying to universalize the experience I had. Unfortunately, liturgical “reform” was highjacked by progressives who distorted what the Council Fathers desired and we are only today beginning to recover what they truly meant by liturgical reform, i.e. to do what I was already doing on the eve of the Council.
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I do believe that you are right. What you had in your parish before the Council is what the Council documents propose.
Unfortunately, it seems, the usual experience was different. At least in my parish. We had sung Mass only twice a year (Christmas and Easter) …

Pave Benedikt snakka for noe dager siden om pave Paul VI, tretti år etter hans død – som var onsdag kveld, 6. august. Pave Benedikt sa at vi etter hvert ville forstå bedre hvor mye godt Paul VI gjorde, og sa at hans innsats var nærmest overmenneskelig.
Ei kvinne i USA, Heather King, ble spurt om hvorfor hun valgte Den katolske Kirke da hun begynte å nærme seg kristen tro, og hun svarer:


